you describe lance armstrong as "the enforcer." pretty tough stuff.us >> serious business. the evidence was serious.or >> reporter: why did you use those words.s. what let you to describe in the that way? it reads like a mafia conspiracy. >> scott, we heard the evidence. we heard the store freeze the athletes. and it's supported, without question, every allegation we put in that letter that obviously now has been shown to be true. >> pelley: and so when lancece armstrong essentially threw new the towel after all of this you were surprised?not not surprised? >> not surprised. again we were disappointed he didn't come in and be part of the solution. it's one of the lowest days inho this investigation, quite honestly. but we knew when he rejectedtu that opportunity for redemption and to be part of this solution at that time that this was his only option to avoid all thisce evidence from ever coming through in open court. >> pelley: if you had any opportunity to have that meetingst with lance armstrong, you could h say one thing to him, what would it be?s >> it's never too late